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Greenburgh Meeting Tonight about Tappan Zee High Line

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Fred Schaeffer, father of the very successful Walkway over the Hudson(Poughkeepsie) will be the guest speaker at the organizational meeting to be held on Wednesday, November 16th at 8 PM at Greenburgh Town Hall to plan a lobbying effort to turn the old Tappan Zee bridge into a suburban high line when the new bridge is built. Mr. Schaeffer spent many years advocating for the walkway. Many people said it was not practical, could not work. But—Mr. Schaeffer persisted. And, today the Walkway over the Hudson is one of the most popular tourist attractions in the Hudson Valley. The walkway over the hudson has been very helpful to  local businesses and to the economy.David Wilson of the Bike Walk Alliance of Westchester/Putnam will also speak. We expect to ask state officials to hire an independent structural engineer to review the feasibility of this proposal. White Plains Councilwoman Milagros Lecuona is co-chairing the task force. She has created a new website: www.tappanbridgepark.com.  Councilwoman Lecuona has 30 years of experience in architecture and urban planning.  It makes no sense to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to demolish the old TZ bridge when the bridge could be enjoyed by millions. I envision bicycle/pedestrian/skateboarding, possible gardens, sculptures, summer entertainment on the suburban high line. If you are interested in joining the committee – please e mail me at pfeiner@greenburghny.com.  The meeting will be held in the cafeteria of the Town Hall since another meeting is being held in the auditorium. My cell phone is 914 438 1343.

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Sarita E November 18, 2011 at 01:04 AM
Again I quote David McKay Wilson of the Bike Walk Alliance: "That bridge has been rebuilt over the past decade with $500 million in public funds. It’s slated for another $1.3 billion in repairs by the time the last car crosses the bridge less than a decade from today. That’s a huge investment in transportation infrastructure that we believe may still have substantial life if it comes time to dismantle the Gov. Malcolm Wilson Tappan Zee Bridge to build a second new cross-Hudson span." Like the High Line and The Walkway, finding public funding is difficult, but the option is attracting private funds, which both projects have successfully done. The rewards in both cases were huge.
Sarita E November 18, 2011 at 01:11 AM
Replying to ASleepyBoy... Here I'm quoting David McKay Wilson, co-founder of the The Bike Walk Alliance of Westchester-Putnam: "Like many of you here, I’ve done the Wilson TZ on the annual October fundraising ride for the National Multiple Sclerosis Society. We’ve climbed the 1.2 percent grade – not 20 percent as reported inaccurately in the New York Times – and either coasted or pedaled down into Rockland."
ASleepyBoy November 18, 2011 at 03:51 PM
It is clearly not 20 percent but it is definitely more than 1.2 percent. Looking at the following link, you can see that there is a maximum slope of 3.08% on the Rockland approach. While this is definitely not a prohibitive slope, it is definitely not an easy one for such long distances. These things need to be considered because unlike the other bridges that have been converted to pedestrian use, the TZ would not be something that someone could take a leisurely stroll on, or push carriage over, or skateboard over, etc. Granted, this is only in the center span area but, again, this needs to be fully considered. http://www.tzbsite.com/tzb-library/pdf-library/pdf-RVR-200808/RVR%20Appendix%20C/RVR%20Appendix%20C%2004.pdf
Sarita E November 18, 2011 at 05:32 PM
Replying to ASleepyBoy's Nov 18th post: Beautiful drawings I hadn't seen, so thanks. And that 3.08% maximum slope on the Rockland approach may indeed be accurate. But if I calculate correctly, even a 3% gradient results in a gain of just 8 inches for each 20 horizontal feet. That type of slope exists all around the Rivertowns and doesn't seem difficult for many people. So yes, it does need to be considered by the planners/designers, but I don't regard it as a deal-breaker.
ASleepyBoy November 18, 2011 at 06:40 PM
Fully agree, and I was glad I was able to find those documents. There are many others on that website dealing with the original EIS for the Tappan Zee corridor project. Definitely not a deal breaker but this would have to be dealt with in a totally different manner. I am also not sure how this would all pan out visually. Two bridges designed to be next to each other is one thing, two new ones next to an old one that look nothing alike may start to look very cluttered.

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